Glasgow And Ships Of The Clyde

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There is so much information and material available relating to Glasgow Docklands and the many vessels, big and small - the "Ships of the Clyde" - which used the river, wharves, quays and docks that it will take a very long time to input all the data onto this website.

So if you like "boats" or remember the days when the Clyde and Glasgow docks were full of ships, or have spare time on your hands and feel that you would enjoy administering and putting data onto the site, or even would be prepared to do some research on the ships,  please get in touch through the "Contact Us" tab at the top of the page..   Your assistance will be gratefully appreciated.

And also :

If you have any material or information or memories or stories, or paintings or photographs.... or anything relevant to this website... which you would like to have on the site... please contact us.      As a certain supermarket tells us... "Every little helps."    BUT.... if you can supply images, please do not send originals.......this site can only accept images through e-mail.   Why ?  Simply because your originals are your own property and too valuable to part with.  That's why we can only accept scanned images or digital photographs of them by e-mail.  And any images supplied must be your own, or submitted with the permission of the copyright holder (this is to prevent any problems over copyright)

And lastly :  A lot of information is gathered from old records and handwritten books. Sometimes the writing is not very clear, and it can be difficult to decipher the name or word involved.  So in this "Can you help" section, there will be items shown which cannot easily be read.   Perhaps you could look at them and give your thoughts on what the writer actually meant.


" If sufficient inducement "

James Bridges (Canterbury, England) e-mails –

   Many of your sailing notices show that a ship will go to a port “if sufficient inducement.”      What exactly is “if sufficient inducement ?”

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Was she “ LAIRDS OAK “ or “ LAIRDSOAK ” ?

   Robert Bothwell (Glasgow) e-mails :

I have always had an affection for Burns & Laird Lines of Glasgow and refer to your entry of their coaster LAIRDS OAK in 1954.

   The Ships in Focus book shows her name as LAIRDSOAK but the accompanying photograph clearly shows the name LAIRDS OAK.

   I know it’s a bit pedantic but what was her name, LAIRDS OAK or was it LAIRDSOAK ?  


 

Harbour oilers CLYDE ENTERPRISE and CLYDE VENTURE in late 1960’s

 

   Does anyone have details of these two oilers which were working in the Clyde in late 1960’s ?

 

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Coaster BALLYCASTLE in 1953

 

In 1953 the coaster BALLYCASTLE of John Kelly, Belfast, was at Ardrossan Harbour loading a cargo of coke for Londonderry.   Does anyone have details of this ship ?

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   Carebeka's coaster RIAN in 1953

 

 In December 1953 the Carebeka’s Groningen registered coaster RIAN arrived at Ardrossan Harbour from Hamburg.

 

   The handwriting in the Harbour Log-book is not easy to read.   The master’s name could be Cloinga or Eloinga : can any Netherlands reader tell what the name is ?

 

   Also the cargo is shown as  “M of Potash” …. What is “M of Potash” ???

  


Details needed of Van Nievelt, Goudriaan's ALPHERAT in 1954

When the Blue Star Line cargo ship PARAGUAY STAR was leaving Montevideo for Buenos Aires her docking bridge fouled the housed port anchor of the Dutch cargo ship ALPHERAT.

   The docking bridge sustained displaced and buckled bridge rails and started deck plank caulking.   Repairs at Buenos Aires cost 5,850 Argentinian Pesos.

   PARAGUAY STAR. a passenger and cargo liner of 10,722 gross tons, was on passage from Liverpool for Buenos Aires and ALPHERAT is a passenger and cargo ship of Rotterdam South America Line (Rotterdam-Zuid Amerika Lijn) and operated by Van Nievelt, Goudriaan & Co. Stoomvaart Maatschappij, Rotterdam.   ALPHERAT is well known for carrying Jewish emigrants from Rotterdam to South America.

Additional note :

Can anyone supply details of ALPHERAT ?


 

Norwegian Tanker RAILA in 1953

 

   Does anyone have details of the Tanker RAILA, registered in Oslo, which was working around the British coast in 1953 ?

 

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Elder Dempster services from USA and Canada and Calcutta to Africa.

 Fred from Formby (Merseyside, England, writes

 

“ I was surprised to read in the Elder Dempster Lines entry of 27th May 1957 that they did sailings from U.S.A. and Canada to West Africa, also Canada to South Africa and also Calcutta to West Africa.

 

Can someone tell something about these services ? ”

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CHANTALA  (Worcester Park, Surrey) writes :

British India Steam Navigation handbook for Hindustani for Navigating Officers and Deck Cadets

   In 1965 when joining BI as a Deck Cadet a necessary handbook was for issuing commands in the Hindustani Language.

   All I can remember now is “Asti aria kurro”

   Does anyone still have the book and can scan or photograph a few pages to show the commands ?

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Sailings from Glasgow Bridge Wharf in April, May and June 1968 to Rothesay and Tighnabruaich.

 

      Thank you so very much for putting in the sailings from Bridge Wharf in Glasgow that I asked for.   Anne G., Isle of Bute

  


 

British Army Tank Landing Craft LCT 4086 and her base at Cairnryan in 1954

 

   Tank Landing Craft LCT 4086 of the British Army’s Royal Army Service Corps arrived at Ardrossan Dockyard in February 1954.   Anyone have details of this vessel and of her life and also details of her base at Cairnryan (which is near Stranraer in south-west Scotland)

  


 

 

Anchor Line advertisement of 1871

 

    I did laugh on seeing the wonderful Handyside and Henderson address of their office in Londonderry as 96 ½ Foyle Street.

 

   If anyone is in Londonderry can they please, please take a photograph of that building and post it on this site.

 

Thank you.

 

Still laughing

 

Fred of Formby, Merseyside, England.

 

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German cargo ship RUHR in 1953

 

  On 15th December 1953 the German cargo ship RUHR, registered in Hamburg and 1,725 nett tons, Captain Ekelman, brought a cargo of scrap metal from Halifax (Canada) to Ardrossan Harbour.

 

   Has anyone got any details of this ship ?

 

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British coaster J B KEE in 1957

 

 Fred of Formby (Merseyside, England) writes :

 

   I have put in a short article about J B KEE making a distress call on 4th November 1957.

 

   Anyone have details of this ship ?

 

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Which Donaldson Line ship collided with a Cunard Liner in 1960’s in Quebec or Montreal ?

 

 Bas Buma (Rotterdam) e-mails ….. translated by Google

 

   Does anyone remember in 1960’s when a Donaldson cargo ship collided with a Cunard passenger liner, maybe CARINTHIA or SYLVANIA at Quebec or Montreal?   My memory is not good now.

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At what time did Union Castle mailships leave South Africa for U.K. ?

 

 Jim Allbright (London) e-mails :

 

   I thoroughly enjoy reading your “Conducting their business in Great Waters” articles as they remind me of places and ships of long, long ago.

 

   Something which I have always pondered – Union Castle passenger liners left Southampton at 4pm on Thursdays for South Africa, --- but did they have a set time, say 4pm when sailing from, for example Cape Town or Durban, when returning to U.K. ?

 

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SUNBEAR of Saguenay Terminals.

 

   In 1962 Saguenay had chartered a general cargo ship named SUNBEAR.   Does anyone have details of this vessel ?

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Can anyone identify or help with a cargo ship AUSTERLAND around 1955-1960 ? === ship is now firmly believed to be AUSTRALIND 

Captain Bryn Wayt writes :

 My father fitted a T/V to a ship that visited the Clyde around the years 1955-60 and I accompanied my him to assist - I was young and have only a limited memory of the event.
The 'Master' invited us both to sail with him "around the world" - so my guess was it was a long-range merchant vessel. It was NOT a "liner" but more of an "ocean freighter".
The name that sticks in my limited memory bank is the "AUSTERLAND".
I've tried various sources to find her, but have not been successful.
I was born and bred in
Glasgow, but I was not acquainted with the Dock in which the ship was anchored to narrow the search.
It was there for at least a week, as the "Master" visited my father's shop and asked for a T/V to be fitted in his vessel.
It took a little time to gather the required bits and bobs to accommodate the order that's why I say a week all told in dock.
Anybody who can give me a clue where to look would be thanked in customer fashion.

James Jeffries replies :

   I saw the message from Captain Wayt and I don’t know off-hand of AUSTERLAND but the name makes me think of AUSTRALIND of the Australind Steam Shipping Company / Bethell, Gwyn & Trinder Anderson & Company, London.

    AUSTRALIND was a 7,214 gross ton tramp cargo ship and was built in 1944 by William Denny & Brothers, Dumbarton, for Australind,  and in 1959 was sold to Argus Steam Ship Company, Liberia and renamed PORTALON.

   In 1972 she was scrapped in Santander, Spain.

However it’s an interesting problem and I’ll start looking for an AUSTERLAND

 

Billy MacAulay (Moderator and Senior Member) writes :

   I have never heard of AUSTERLAND, but as Jim says AUSTRALIND is a possibility as Trinder Anderson vessels were visitors – though not too frequently – to Glasgow - and AUSTRALIND was in Govan Drydock, Glasgow around 1954.

   But I will also look for AUSTERLAND and being a cargo ship will search at Queen’s and Prince’s Docks and surroundings.   It will take some time as there is a lot to plough through.

  

 

  


 

   Why was LADY McGOWAN IN Loch Riddon ?

 

 The small I.C.I. explosives carrying coaster LADY McGOWAN was in Loch Riddon on 29 November 1953.

 

   Loch Riddon is a small Loch situated near Tighnabruaich in the Kyles of Bute, a lonely and sparsely populated hilly area off the main area known as Firth of Clyde, Scotland.

 

   Does anyone have any thoughts or suggestions as to the reason why LADY McGOWAN would be in this unusual locality ?

  


John Kelly's coaster BALLYCLARE in late 1953.

   In our entries for this ship it is difficult to read the Master's name... possibly Capt. Crab.   Anyone know if this is correct ?

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Small boat sailor writes from Inverkip :

 

 

 

   I see that motor launches P.D.1 and 8641 passed King George V Dock, Glasgow in January 1967.   Their names vaguely ring a bell in my memory but I don’t remember anything about them.

 

   Does anyone know anything of these two launches ?

 

Just a guess could P.D.1 refer to the launch being the mooring rope boat in Prince’s Dock ?

 

   Sandy

  


Mystery of CVC or CUC in Prince’s Dock area of Glasgow

 

 In 1958 the Clyde Shipping Company’s coaster PLADDA

 was listed as berthed in CVC ….. or CUC …… in Prince’s Dock

 area in Glasgow.

 

   Does anyone know where CVC or CUC was ?

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Pacific Steam Navigation’s KENUTA at Puna in 1957

 

Tom Hayworth e-mails :

 

Your homepage shows KENUTA at Puna in 1957.   Where is Puna ?

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Ben Line’s Far-East coaster BENVEG in 1957

 

Leith Man e-mails

I was very surprised to see your entry for BENVEG in January 1957

for BENVEG as I had never heard of her.

 

Anyone have any more information please ?

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SPRINGFIELD QUAY, GLASGOW

Harry Cochrane e-mails :and conveniently close to the city centre. With restaurants, casino, bingo, bowling, cinema and hotel, everything you need is at The Quay.

For a good few years what was Springfield Quay in Glasgow has been redeveloped into an entertainment area with a cinema, hotel, casino and restaurants.   There was always a big sign at the entrance reading "SPRINGFIELD QUAY" but now the sign has been removed and replaced with a much smaller and more modern one saying "THE QUAY"

It's sad to have the last of the great Glasgow dockside quayside names disappear from public view.

aand conveniently close to the city centre. With restaurants, casino, bingo, bowling, cinema and hotel, everything you need is at The Quay.nd conveniently close to the city centre. With restaurants, casino, bingo, bowling, cinema and hotel, everything you need is at The Quay.


MYSTERY SHIP PORTHOLE

 From Michael Irwin (michaelj87836@gmail.com)
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I have a very short video posted on youtube of a porthole that I am trying to identify. It is more than likely WW1 era. Glass window is 14" in diameter and the entire assembly weighs 132 lbs. The name of the youtube video is Mystery Ship Porthole and I will leave a link. Thanks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbgNppQ8XWM

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LASHERCIA ..... A Spanish coaster in 1962

   Does anyone have information on LASHERCIA which was trading around the Irish Sea and Liverpool in 1962 ?

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Clyde Navigation Trust launches GARMOYLE and DUNGLASS

Jim Allison writes : I see from arrivals and sailings that the Clyde Navigation Trust launches GARMOYLE and DUNGLASS were busy on the River, even in the middle of the night.  What was their occupation ?

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Carrickfergus (Northern Ireland) in January 1963.

From Sean R  (Larne, Northern Ireland)

   Thanks very much for showing the ships bringing explosives from Irvine to Carrickfergus in January 1963.   After 53 years I've now found out the two ships in the photographs, CASCADE the Dutch coaster and LADY ANSTRUTHER of ICI.    Sean R.


 

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Netherlands coaster MADO in 1963

   In January 1963 the Groningen registered coaster MADO was at Irvine, Scotland, having arrived with a cargo of 200 tons of fertilizer from Rotterdam.   Does anyone have any information or details of this ship

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CARGOES FOR BEIRA BY SPECIAL ARRANGEMENT ONLY

I see from the sailing notices (such as in SYDNEY STAR) that cargoes for Beira in East Africa are often accepted by special arrangement only.  Why by special arrangement ?

  Charlie and Misty Fennelly, New Jersey. U.S.A.

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Holland America cargo ship DUIVENDYK

Holland America cargo ship DUIVENDYK was at Glasgow from August 27 1959 to September 2 1959 loading scrap metal for Japan.   Does anyone have any information about this vessel.


 

Information needed on cargo ship KORBACH in 1958

 

KORBACH was closing for receiving cargo in Glasgow on 25 July 1958 and loading for the Great Lakes, Detroit and Chicago.    She was probably on a charter by Anchor Line or Head Line or Cunard Line.

 

Does anyone have any information on KORBACH ?


 

“Conducting their business in Great Waters” series

Just to say how much we enjoy reading your “Conducting their business in Great Waters” series.   Really good to read of BENDORAN at Zamboanga and DURBAN CASTLE at St. Helena Island and British India’s KENYA at Zanzibar. And Misty appreciates the diary of Donaldson Line's LETITIA that you included for her.  This is the only website that brings the voyages to life.   Even the kids read it and are sure learning their world geography.   Charlie and Misty Fennelly,  New Jersey. U.S.A (Misty was born in Canada and her family were Pilots on Saint Lawrence)


WHERE IS " PULO BOKOM "

On 5th January 1957 Alfred Holt's Blue Funnel CALCHAS was at Pulo Bokom.   It's not on Wikipedia.   Where is Pulo Bokom ?

"Hydatina" of Croydon, England, writes :

Pulau Bukom, also known as Pulau Bukum, is a small island belonging to Singapore that is located about five kilometres to the south of the main island of Singapore, off the Straits of Singapore. The size of Pulau Bukom is about 1.45 km².   Royal Dutch Shell Group had a refinery there which I visited a number of times on Shell U.K. Tankers.

Note : The event for CALCHAS has been amended accordingly.


MEANING OF CERTAIN SHIPPING DESCRIPTIONS
Mandy Skinner writes :
   I teach Modern Studies and Geography and my classes use this amazing website to learn of the trade and shipping business on the Clyde from the 1950's, and how the Port of Glasgow and Britain supplied to, and received goods from, every part of the world.
   However, as a non-sailor, I am mystified as to the actual meanings of some descriptions regarding ships.   Can someone please enlighten me ?
   The terms are
   
   Gross tonnage
   Net tonnage
   Deadweight tonnage
   Loading coal or oil bunkers / bunkered
   The ship was "ranging"
   On the ground
   Stevedore
   Longshoremen
   Bad spillage while unloading cargo  (I would have thought that any spillage was bad)
   Dragging her anchor
   Hopper barge
   Canting in Prince's Dock
   Shifting along the wall
   Palm oil cargo
   Shelphate
   Weatherbound / Windbound 
   Cleaning tanks  (as in the ship TULIPBANK)
   Fitting out
   Thank you,   Mandy Skinner

 

A question about Alfred Holt and the King George V Dock in Glasgow

Jim Alison e-mails :   Your event of 25th August 1958 tells that Blue Funnel's PELEUS loaded a 6-ton lift by "Holt's crane".   Did Alfred Holt have a company crane at Glasgow, or could it be the ship's own derrick that was used. ?


CLAN MACINTOSH and help needed on the origin of three launches loaded at Glasgow.

On 9th July 1958 CLAN MACINTOSH loaded 3 launches by her own gear at Glasgow.   The launches came from "Mechano / Medano.   Please have a look at the image, which has been enlarged, and see if you can throw some light on the launches.


Scottish motor coaster PIBROCH built in 1956 by Scott & Sons of Bowling

Does anyone have details of her owners and employment after being sold by Scottish Malt Distillers Company ?


CAN YOU HELP  The oilers "Invertest, Apexity and Clanity" are noted as daily supplying bunker fuel oil to vessels. Have you any images or information on these three ships. ? 

A. Manson replies: Apexity and Clanity were owned by F.T Everard later taken over by Fisher.


CAN YOU HELP   Ore ships at General Terminus Quay .....when leaving, they left Terminus Quay astern.... where were they turned, to go downriver ahead.  Did they turn in Princes Dock...or at Yorkhill Basin...or at King George V Dock ?

  A. Manson replies "Ore carriers leaving General Terminus Quay were canted at Princes Dock ; the area inside the entrance was known as the Canting Basin."


CAN YOU HELP   Glasgow fire-boat "St. Mungo"    Billy and Terry Kelly noted that Glasgow had a fire-boat named "St. Mungo" operated by Glasgow Fire Service, moored at Yorkhill Quay at the entrance to Queens Dock,  and crewed by firemen based in Yorkhill Fire Station (just across the road from Yorkhill Quay.)  Does anyone have a photograph of "St. Mungo" ?

A. Manson replies :Photographs and history the early and latter St. Mungo Fireboats can be seen by going on website "St. Mungo Fireboat"


CAN YOU HELP    Blue funnel liner "Pyrrhus" is shown as arriving on 16th July 1958 (see the image) at berth 3 King George V Dock, head South, bow 5 1/2 ...something...into berth 4.   Any idea what the 5 1/2 something is ?


Ref. "Pyrrhus Berthing. The large timber or metal doors on the dockside of the cargo sheds are referred to as Blinds. There may six or seven of these so the bow or stern of a vessel may be sited in a position relative to the blinds.


CAN YOU HELP   The coaster "Salling" arrived at KG5 on 16th July 1958 from " G.at ? " (see the image)  Can anyone hazard a guess what the place "G....at" is ?

A Manson replies "Destination of "Salling" could possibly have Ghent, Belgium."


CAN YOU HELP.   Princes Dock logbook shows these vessels arriving, but the writing is hard to read.   Can you make out the names?

          

Click on these images to enlarge them

First is maybe.... Cruzeiro Do Sul

Below it is maybe.... Templar

Further down is maybe... Kaduna ...or Kadura

Further down maybe... La Manche

Just below that ......Barbanihalis (or something)

Still further down..... Prins W J or G Frerderick

And also on that page for 28th June at 2045 arrives "Somme" at berth 65 annexe.   I had never heard of "65 annexe"     Can anyone enlighten me? 

A Manson replies "berth 65 Plantation was an Annex abutting on the West end of Mavisbank Quay."    and Kaduna was owned by Paddy Henderson, vessels trading to Burma and associated areas.

Prinz Willem 1V and Prinz W J Fredrick were owned by Dutch Company Oranje Lijn and traded to, and spent some time in the Great Lakes.


CAN YOU HELP   What is the name of this ship?  Is it Sunnarhav or Sunnanhav.  She arrived in Glasgow on 6th July 1965.  Just to allow continuity of entering details, the ship is listed in events as being "Sunnanhav" unless otherwise corrected.

A Manson replies : "Sunnanhan" could possibly have been owned by Saguenay Terminals who prefixed several of their ships names by "Sun"


CAN YOU HELP   The vessel "Mango" or "Manyo" arrived at Princes Dock from Ardrossan on 14th July 1965, draft 5' 10" forard and 12' 8" aft, which would be the draft of a coaster.  But the logbook shows her sailing on 18th July for Three Rivers (Canada) draft forard 17' 07" and aft 19' 06"   Any thoughts or information on this vessel would be welcome. 


THANKS FOR THE MEMORY   Mrs  Margaret Buckner e-mails from Canada.

"I was browsing and chanced on your website, and was astonished to discover mention of the Donaldson ships taking passengers from Princes Dock to Montreal.   I was a little girl in 1960 when my folks emigrated from Kirkintilloch to Canada on Laurentia, and it was a very rough crossing, but was calm when we passed Newfoundland.  The mention of "Laurentia" brought the memories flooding back, having been forgotten for 50 years. Thanks for bringing back the memory.


CAN YOU HELP   : This interesting little advert was in the 23rd June 1906 issue of "Largs and Millport Weekly News"   Note the early start for the days sailing, and the unusual name "Bute 4"     Any information on the firm or the vessels?   Click on the image to enlarge it to full size.

     

A Manson replies: For full history on SS Bute suggest Logging on" SS Bute at Greenock" With information regarding builders of same and SS Kyle then follow Princess Alice Disaster where all will be revealed re ultimate fate of Vessel. 


CAN YOU HELP  : The vessel "Cedric" arrived at KG5 on 10th October 1967. It's difficult to decipher where she came from.  Any suggestions?  Click on the image to enlarge it.

A Manson writes : 
The "Cedric" which arrived at KG5 dock 10th October 1967 would have come from Napier, New Zealand, where she would have loaded refrigerated cargo, e.g. lamb, butter, etc. This was a regular run for vessels belonging to the New Zealand Shipping Company.

A Manson writes :

Ref. the "Cedric" The port referred to is Napier New Zealand.


CAN YOU HELP   This vessel "Stern" or "Stein" arrived KG5.   Is the name "Stern" or "Stein"    Click on the image to enlarge it.


CAN YOU HELP   : What is the name of this 1967 arrival.  Click on the image to enlarge it.


CAN YOU HELP  : Falcon Reefer arrived from USA and Newfoundland.   Which was the USA port concerned?   Click on the image to enlarge it.

A MANSON replies: Gloucester Massachusetts USA is on of America's oldest Ports.


CAN YOU HELP  : Harrison's "Statesman" in Jan 1968 at Shieldhall Riverside Quay conducted an engine test.   What is the word after the test.  Click on the image to enlarge it.

A Manson writes :

Ref. the engine test on "Statesman" at Riverside Shieldhall . The engines would have been run on slow speed. Vessels having such must be securely moored probably with insurance wires as an added precaution .


MANOEUVERING ON THE RIVER   : Jim Allison e-mails that when a vessel was moving on the river Clyde and passing the entrances to Rivers Kelvin, Cart and Leven, after heavy rainfall, the amount of water coming off these rivers would hit any passing vessel on the side and tend to push her in the opposite direction.  You needed a strong steady hand on the wheel at these points.


CAN YOU HELP  :  On 3rd May 1965 a vessel "DCV 401" arrived.  Any information on that vessel ?


THE BIG EX-BP TANKER AT PLANTATION.    : Jim Allison writes that a big ex-BP tanker which lay at Plantation for some time, around 1980, and was leaving for breaking in the far east, was towed astern downriver to Shieldhall and her stern put into KG5, and she was turned there to go downstream ahead.   He doesn't remember the name.


SEAMEN'S MISSION AT YORKHILL/SCOTSTOUN  ; Tam Thomson asks if anyone remembers the "Seamens Mission" at Yorkhill or Scotstoun in 1970s, run by pensioners/church, where seamen/retired sailors could get a hearty cooked meal at a reasonable price.

A Manson replies; 

There once was a"Flying Angel " Seamens Club in York Street Glasgow long since gone. There is still a Stella Maris Club for seamen situated at 937 Dumbarton Road Yoker Glasgow open several days a week .It is affiliated to St. Brendans Church on Kelso Street close by.

Tam Thomson replies: Much appreciated for your answer Mr Manson. I didn't know about the Flying Angel but you have made me think.  was there a seamens club beside the Clyde Shipping offices at the suspension bridge.  The stella Maris, yes that is the very one.  I had a dinner in there must be twenty years ago. the ladies had finished meals but made me one specially when i came in.  Its great that you have brought back memory and i like all your ansers to the help bit as you really know your stuff about the clyde.  Have a good new year mr Manson, and Douglas please keep up the internet site as it is great to read about the ships at Glasgow, and i hope you have a good new year to. 

A Manson replies:Re the Stella Maris Club which may stir a memory of the subscriber. It was for many years situated in Carlton Place on the South side of the Upper Clyde close to the Suspension Bridge.


MEXICAN WARSHIPS IN PRINCE'S DOCK  ; Joe Barrowman asks if anyone remembers some "Mexican ?" frigates which visited Princes Dock in early 1970s.


CAN YOU HELP    Can you decipher the name of the ship Bleuersand?   And she has come from Sfax via ?????   Could it be Ayr?   Click on the image to enlarge it.

Bill McKellar e-mails : I would say that it's Ayr for Bluersand.


CAN YOU HELP   Can you clarify the ships names Jozina and Teun ?   Click on the image to enlarge it.


CAN YOU HELP   Joe Matthewson asks where Paddy Henderson's offices and the Ellerman City Line offices were in Glasgow and is looking for details from the Ellerman deck cadet recruiting brochure around 1965

A reply :   Ellerman once had offices at City line, Managers George Smith and Sons 76 Bothwell Street Glasgow.


Clan Line offices were at Clan Line 109 hope Street Glasgow


CAN YOU HELP  Joe Matthewson remembers that around 1980 an Ellerman vessel was a long time at Yorkhill Quay with bow damage. What was her name, and what was the story of the damage.

A Manson replies : 

The Ellerman vessel was the City of Lancaster but renamed Lancaster by Greek owners who simply painted over the City of .She arrived in Glasgow having suffered severe bow damage in a collision. The forecastle was shored using two of the ship's derricks
She discharged a cargo Mediterranean potatoes at Merklands Quay. The cargo was in a severe state of rot due to exposure to the elements. Thereafter the vessel was berthed at Meadowside Quay and the entire crew, including the master, vanished overnight abandoning the vessel . There was difficulty in contacting agents 
Subsequently I believe she was taken to a shipbreakers.
A photograph of her can be seen in ,I think, November or Decembers copy of Ships Monthly


CAN YOU HELP  Tommy Campbell remembers the ore boats at General Terminus, and asks if anyone rememers Livanita, Vivita, Dapo Sky, Welsh something or other.

A Manson replies: The "Livanita" of Norwegian Registry was one of many iron ore carriers which discharged at General Terminal Quay Mavisbank. She did on one  occasion run aground at Elderslie Dry Dock area Partial discharge to lighten the vessel was done by grab into Puffers which were of shallow draught and able to go alongside for that purpose.  She was eventually re-floated and thereafter completed Discharge at General Terminus.


BILL McKELLAR WRITES : I really like reading about the old boats and think that todays boats don't have the good looks of the old ones.  My favourites were the Blue funnel ones and the Palm boats, and I always thought that the newer Clan boats were too squat for my liking.   The dredgers and hoppers had character and at new year time they were all tied up in KG5 and the top of the dock was jammed full of them.  Ellerman had nice colours.  My favourite was Scottish Coast.


A MANSON writes:   At one time it was not uncommon for a vessel to conduct an engine trial while alongside a berth in port and prior to sailing probably after some engine repair or adjustment. Particular attention had to be given to secure mooring often meaning putting out "insurance wires" for added safety.


ADRIATIC COAST   Jack Lennon writes "I was surfing and found your item on the Coast Line's Adriatic Coast at Glasgow. I was on her at the time. great site for detail and nostalgia. Can you do a forum on the site.   

Douglas replies : I don't have plans for a Forum at present, but possibly in the future.


MEMORIES FROM THE ORE CARRIER DAYS  Peter Best of Newcastle e-mails : I spent seven years on the ore carriers on the Glasgow run carrying ore for the steelworks at Ravenscraig. One of me mates and me were going to the pool office just across the river, and instead of taking the ferry boat from the pier just astern of the ship, me mate said we could go under the water on a tunnel. We hunted for the doorway but coudent find it.  When we were leaving the pilot said that there was a tunnel but there was no way he would go through it. Strange thing was I gave up the sea and got work in the steelwork at Redcar.  One time we left Glasgow along with one of the Glasgow liberty ship passenger boats that was going to Canada and we kept in company with her all the way over until we turned off to Seven Islands.  We usually passed one of the empress or cunard boats, and the old man took us closer to give them a wave.  Me mate and me were in a pub beside the boat and got talking to the barmaid.  all the crews of the ore boats went in there and the barmaid said that she stayed just behind the big cranes and when a boat was being unloded the red dust covered all her washing and the windows had to be kept shut all the time to keep out the dust.


THE DERELICT BUILDING AT KG5 DOCK, BESIDE SAINSBURY'S PETROL STATION

Robert Stewart fills up his car with petrol at Sainsbury's at Braehead Retail Park, Glasgow, and tells of a derelict old building, which is falling to bits, which is just yards from the petrol station on the King George 5 Dock side of the fence.   Does anyone know the history of the building

A Manson writes :

If they are still in existence, it is possible that the derelict premises at Shieldhall/ Braehead could the remains of house or outbuildings of the farm that once stood on that site, Remains of WW11 gun emplacements were also evident for some time before the new developments.


UNUSUAL STOP AT STOBCROSS CRANE FOR QUEEN MARY 11 ON SAIL TO TIGHNABRUAICH 

On 24th August 1965 the Clyde passenger Excursion Steamer "Queen Mary 11" left her usual berth at Bridge Wharf, Glasgow,  at 11am taking her passengers on a trip downriver to Tighnabruaich.  But a few minutes later she berthed on the opposite side of the river - in the commercial shipping berth at Stobcross Quay just under the tall Stobcross Crane - and again boarded passengers for Tighnabruaich.  This was a most unusual stop  for an excursion steamer - just minutes after leaving her berth.  Anyone have any idea why the special stop would have occurred ?  Detail of the stop are in the "Events" for 24th August 1965.


30th January 2014

PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS RELEVANT TO SHIPS AND SHIPPING AT GLASGOW

Douglas writes :  There have been seven e-mails recently received which comment or try to discuss    Scottish Independence,   Government "Bedroom Tax",   Government lack of aid to flooded areas in South of England,    Military forces being made redundant,    Amount of rainfall this winter,   Cost of living and electricity prices,    and today, the closure of certain Fire Brigade Control Rooms in Scotland.

None of these messages have the slightest relevance to this website or to shipping, and I have deleted them all and advised the senders accordingly.

Please only post messages which have a connection to shipping, Glasgow or the Clyde or appropriate.   Any other messages will be deleted, as this site will not become a platform for anyone to express their complaints or views or dis-satisfaction on Government policy or similar or anything unconnected to ships or shipping.

There are other sites and avenues where opinions can be posted .... but not on this site, thank you. 


CUNARD LINE'S "BRESCIA" AT GLASGOW IN OCTOBER 1965

"Brescia" is listed as arriving from Aiyow via Belfast.  Where on earth is Aiyow?


BERTH NUMBERS AT SHIELDHALL RIVERSIDE WHARF

The Riverside Wharf has two berths, numbers 1 and 2.    Does anyone know how the berths are numbered, either berth 1 at the entrance to King George V Dock and berth 2 going upriver towards the city ?

Or, like the main docks in the city, are the berths numbered as coming from the city downriver, meaning berth 1 would be nearest the city and berth 2 being at the entrance to King George V Dock ?


NUMBERING OF BERTHS FROM BROOMIELAW AND BRIDGE WHARF TO PLANTATION

A Manson writes :

Previously, when standing on King George V Bridge looking down-river the Berthing positions on the North side from Broomielaw to Berth 85 Plantation were designated in even numbers while those on the south side were in odd numbers from Bridge Wharf to Berth 85 Plantation. Berth 83 was colloquially known as "Starvation Point" Berth 85 was separated from Berth 83 by the entrance to Princes Dock and was adjacent to Govan Dry Docks.


WHO OWNED OR OPERATED GENERAL TERMINUS AND ITS CRANES

Bill McKellar e-mails :

I've been looking at the replies about Kingston Dock and General Terminus, and got to thinking.   Who actually owned or operated Terminus and the cranes, and when were the cranes demolished.


PORT CHALMERS

Liz Chalmers e-mails :   I'm sending this message for my dad who worked in Connels Yard and worked on Port Chalmers.   He was reading your stuff and remembers the day whem she went aground at Barclay Curles.   The yard manager was going daft in case she was badly damaged and would be late in going to the owners.  But it was all right and when she was going away all the yard men gave her a loud cheer as it went past.  He says it was a huge tall ship and bigger than the ben boats.


DUMBARTON AND LOCH LOMOND AND "MAID OF THE LOCH"

Alaister McKenzie e-mails :

First time in years I was in dumbarton and at the river side.   Got to thinking.  Last time i was here there was Glenlight boats taking the remains of Dennys yard somewhere.   Where did the stuff go to.   And is there a way for boats to go from dumbarton to loch lomond.   and how did the Maid of the Loch and the todays passenger boats on the loch get there as surely the maid is too deep to get up past dumbarton


STEAMSHIP "META"

On 14th October 1961 (the details are on site) a coaster steamship "Meta" arrived in Prince's Dock to load for Sweden, and during her stay loaded 270 tons of bunker coal.   It was quite unusual to have a steam-ship in those days.   Does anyone have any information on this ship ?

Vessel Meta was owned by Glen Line of Glasgow who operated between the U.K and Scandinavian Ports.Their inward cargo usually consisted of Matches and timber and allied products Exports from Scotland at one time were the chassis of the Volvo cars which were taken to Sweden for the final completion the exported from there. This was,as I recall the car driven by "The Saint" in the early detective series. The Meta was built in the early 1930,s


MAVISBANK QUAY AND PLANTATION QUAY, GLASGOW

Jim Hillhouse e-mails :   

I find it very interesting how you  show the berth numbers for the ships at Mavisbank and Plantation Quays.   I was wondering what berths numbers were in Mavisbank and which berths were in Plantation, and was there any separation or dividing line between Mavisbank and Plantation quays.


NUMBERING OF BERTHS FROM BROOMIELAW AND BRIDGE WHARF TO PLANTATION

A Manson writes :

Previously, when standing on King George V Bridge looking down-river the Berthing positions on the North side from Broomielaw to Berth 85 Plantation were designated in even numbers while those on the south side were in odd numbers from Bridge Wharf to Berth 85 Plantation. Berth 83 was colloquially known as "Starvation Point" Berth 85 was separated from Berth 83 by the entrance to Princes Dock and was adjacent to Govan Dry Docks.

Jim Hillhouse e-mails :  Thank you Mr Manson for explaining about berth 85.   Can I ask what that berth was used for? and you tell that from Broomielaw to berth 85 plantation were designated even numbers...... should that read broomielaw to berth something at stobcross were even numbers??


NEGOTIATING CITY BRIDGES TO REACH CUSTOM HOUSE QUAY

"puffer fan of Scotstoun" e-mails :     My favourite book is Dan McDonalds "The Clyde Puffer" but I'm a wee bit sceptical about a caption in it.   On page 30 he has a photo of puffer "Stormlight" passing downriver before 1959, and the caption is that she was returning from custom house quay and had  to negotiate five city bridges.   Surely it would be four bridges or would coasters at chq have to under the suspension bridge at south portland street also.   any ideas?


HISTORY OF PUFFERS

For a history of Puffers Go on "Puffers-The supreme Marine achievement of man's invention".


KELVIN

On 19th February 1962 (the item is on site) the coaster WOLFGANG VOGELSANG left "Kelvin" and berthed in Prince's Dock.    Can anyone hazard a guess what she would be doing in the Kelvin and where she would be berthed there ?


CLYDE SHIPPING TUG AT ARDROSSAN

Alan Brown writes that he remembers a Clyde Shipping tug helping a Steel and Bennie tug to dock a big tanker at Ardrossan in early 1960's.   Any information would be appreciated.

Douglas replies :  The tanker was SOUTHERN CLIPPER and docked at Ardrossan on 7th August 1962 assisted by the tugs CAMPAIGNER and FLYING WITCH.    Details will be put on site soon.


 END OF GLASGOW's   ANCHOR LINE,   GLEN LINE   AND DONALDSON LINE

Andy Hiddleston writes  : Following on to the thing about Paddy Henderson Line, I never understood why Anchor and Glen and Donaldson Lines all shut down.   Somebody please tell me why.


MEMORIES

Jim Muir writes  : I really like this website as it brings a lot of memories back.   When I was a boy and sailing doon the watter we passed a French ship in one of the riverside berths and me being silly and learning French at school shouted across to the French ship "Bonjour" as we passed.   Only now I realise it might not have been the French crew I shouted at but could have been the Glasgow dockers on the ship.

Another time on going doon the watter we were passing the Lang Dyke near Dumbarton Rock and we met a Lamport & Holt ship inward bound for Glasgow.  I think her name began with R... maybe Ronsard, but she was beautiful and immaculate with a massive black, white and blue funnel.  as we passed her the officer at the bow raised his white cap and waved it above his head, and the crowd on the Queen Mary 11 gave him a big cheer.

This is a great site and I enjoy looking up the visiting ships that I remember.


K HADJIPATERAS

"Volturno" of Italy e-mails   (this is a rough translation of the message in Italian

I am overjoyed to read about the Liberty ship K HADJIPATERAS as I saw her many times in Napoli (Naples) and went on ship with my papa who was agent.    Good ship site.   Volturno


BLUE FUNNEL''S "GUNUNG DJATI" IN 1960'S IN GLASGOW

David Hall asks if there is any information on Blue Funnel's passenger ship GUNUNG DJATI in Glasgow in 1960's as he remembers seeing it at Shieldhall.

Douglas replies : I've now put details on site for you.

Norman Horrocks e-mails Historical information :

The ship was actually built in 1936 by Blohm & Voss, Hamburg, for Deutsche Ost-Afrika linie, and named PRETORIA.   She was employed on passenger service from German and continental ports to East Africa.

At the end of World War 11 the ship was taken as taken from the Germans as a British war prize and renamed EMPIRE DOON and used as a Troopship and managed by Orient Line for the British Ministry of War Transport.     In 1948 - 1949 she was reconditioned, again as a Troopship, and renamed EMPIRE ORWELL.

In 1958 she was chartered to Pan Islamic Steam Ship Company of Karachi, Pakistan, for pilgrim service.

November 1958 saw her sold to Blue Funnel Line of Liverpool (Ocean Steam Ship Company) and was refitted for the carriage of pilgrims from Indonesia to Jeddah (Saudi Arabia) and was renamed GUNUNG DJATI

In 1962 Blue Funnel sold her to the Indonesian Government who continued to use her for carrying pilgrims.

1979 saw a change of use, when the Indonesian Government transferred her to the Indonesian Navy as a Naval accommodation ship and renamed her KRI TANJUNG PANDAN

Her end came in 1987 when she was sold for scrap, and arrived at Kaosiung, Taiwan, for demolition

Andy Miller writes :   Blue Funnel boats were all named after Greek Gods?    What did GUNUNG DJATI refer or relate to ?


KING GEORGE V DOCK, GLASGOW

Roy Twigg of Liverpool writes   " What an amazing site that brings back memories of coming to Glasgow.   We always docked in King George V Dock and it always seemed to be crammed full of Blue Funnels and Clans with a Shaw Savill and Palm boat thrown in for good measure.   The dock was a long way from the town centre but there were always tramcars and buses to take us.    Thanks for such a good site.    Roy Twigg


VENTILATOR KNOCKED OVER THE SIDE IN CARGO HANDLING

David Stevenson remembers being on a ship in King George V Dock and when loading or unloading cargo a cargo net caught the ships ventilator and knocked it clean off and the unhappy ventilator went over the side into the drink.    David thinks the ventilator was brought back up by the port diver


EX-LONDON RIVER FLAT-IRON COLLIER ARRESTED AT SHIELDHALL RIVERSIDE QUAY

Frank McManus asks if anyone remembers an ex-London river flat-iron collier which had come to Glasgow and berthed at Shieldhall Riverside Quay maybe 30 years ago, and the Admiralty Marshal arrested the ship for non-payment of the crew's wages.   there was a crew's banner at the gangway saying "We are not prisoners"        Anyone remember this ?


METCALF'S COASTAL TANKER "EILEEN M"

James Gallagher e-mails:

I am looking for information on a metcalf motor coaster the EILEEN M.   Me and my brother Tony sailed on her late 1950s from Stanlow to the Scottish islands.   Has anyone got info or photos of her. or know how I can find info of her thanks jim gallagher


CLYDE STEAMERS AND THE "THREE LOCHS" CRUISE

When I was a boy and spent my summers on the Clyde steamers from Gourock and Largs I remember going on cruises to the "Three Lochs"   I can't remember what were the three lochs involved.  Can anyone tell me ?       Sam McNaughton


BLUE FUNNEL SHIP AGROUND NEAR JAMES WATT DOCK, GREENOCK

Sam mcNaughton e-mails :

I remember there was a Blue Funnel ship inbound to Glasgow that went aground near James Watt Dock around 1960's.     Anyone remember this ?


PALM LINER JUST OFF GOUROCK PIER

Jim Hall writes:       One of my earliest memories of Gourock pier was around 1960 when my parents and I were at the pier and literally just maybe a hundred yards off the pier was a new Palm liner stopped in the water,    I think it was LOBITO or LAGOS PALM.    She was waiting for the Gourock pilot who was late for her, and Palm had come just off the pier to wait for the pilot.     Soon a pilot appeared and climbed down to the pilot boat and went off to the Palm.


CABLE SHIP "ALERT"

Robert Wotherspoon asks :   Does anyone remember the cable ship ALERT that used to frequent Rothesay Dock and the Gare Loch


ELDERSLIE DRY-DOCKS

Harry Roy writes :   Thanks very much for starting the entries for Elderslie Dry-Docks that I asked for.      There were 3 dry-docks there, numbers 1,2 and 3.     What docks had the numbers, what I mean is what dock was number1, and what dock was number 2 and what dock was number 3


ELLERMAN'S "CITY OF PRETORIA"

Hugh Fagan e-mails :

My father recently passed and I have his papers from his time on the City of Pretoria and a couple of pictures of the ship. I would like to find out more about her ,my father served from 1955 to 1957 when an injury forced an end to his service.


"KENILWORTH" THREATENED BY U.S. WARSHIP

Alan-Kirkintilloch writes :

I was today reminded that, a few years ago, a visiting U.S. warship threatened to open fire on the small Gourock passenger ferry KENILWORTH.      Does anyone know what the circumstances were ?

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EVERARD'S COASTERS AT ROTHESAY DOCK

Tom Menzies writes :

Reading the previous letters about Rothesay Dock reminds me of the 1960's when the Dock was always full of Everard coasters carrying clinker. It seemed that every berth was an Everard boat.    And there were the big ore carriers unloaded there, as well as going upstream to General Terminus.   I never knew what clinker was used for, and still don't know - 50 years on.


SHIPS AT ELDERSLIE DRY-DOCKS

Liz Chalmers writes :     I see from the entries that many of the ships, like the Blue Funnel ships, coming to Elderslie Dry-Docks only stay for 2 or 3 days.     What work would they be having done in that short time ?


NUMBER 1 RECESS BERTH AT ROTHESAY DOCK

Harry Sharkey writes :  Reading some entries for Rothesay Dock I see that some ships were berthed in Number 1 recess berth.    I didn't know there was such a place.    Anybody enlighten me please?


INDIAN DREDGER AJOY COLLIDES WITH THE RENFREW FERRY

Harry Sharkey writes :   I'm astonished.   Being brought up and still living in Renfrew this is the first time I heard about the colliding with the Renfrew Ferry.    When I was a boy I knew all the dredgers and hoppers and workboats that used the Pudzeoch and the Navigation trust workshops there.


ELLERMAN'S "ARCADIAN"

Colin Hosken writes : In 1965/66 I served as a cadet on the African Coasters "Bulwark" 2219 ton which I believe was formerly the Ellerman Line Anglian. Does anybody have any photographic details of her earlier history which they would like to share with me.


ANCHOR LINE'S "CIRCASSIA"

 I am currently looking to construct a scale model of
Anchor Lines Vessel 'Circassia' and would greatly value any
information that would assist me in this venture.   Ken Perrins

Tommy MacLean writes :  I knew Anchor Line well.   Are you referring to the CIRCASSIA which was sold in 1966, and if so what information are you actually needing?


CREW MEMBERS OF PUFFER "RAYLIGHT" IN AUGUST 1975

John Gallagher asks  if anyone knows any crew names when the puffer RAYLIGHT foundered off Larne 4th August 1975

Hugh Tait replies : I don't know any of the names but assuming they were local to Greenock area and as it was a Greenock ship. there would certainly be a full report of the matter in the  local newspaper, the Greenock Telegraph, and it is very likely that the Inverclyde  District Council library archives will have back copies of the newspapers going back to the year dot.

Jim Muir writes    Extra to what Hugh says the Glasgow Herald paper likely has details, and back copies are kept in the Archives at the   Mitchell Library in Glasgow.:


OLD KILPATRICK OIL JETTIES

Robert Banks writes :

I was on WAVERLEY at the weekend and passed the derelict Old Kilpatrick piers.   a thought struck me that the ocean tankers around 600 feet long berthed there, but the channel is not very wide.  So when the tankers were leaving the jetties and going downriver where did they turn around when they left the piers.


DONALDSON LINE'S COLINA PASSES TIGHNABRUAICH

On 9th August 1965 COLINA was recorded as arriving at Prince's Dock, Glasgow, from the Great Lakes via TIGHNABRUAICH.     Why would COLINA be in the Kyles of BUTE ?


LOSS OF THE PUFFER "DRUID"

Last night I watched David Hayman's documentary about "Puffers" on BBC2 and was shocked to hear that "Druid" was lost with all hands while working out of Liverpool. As a youngster I sailed on her from 1953, plying from the Clyde to Stornoway with liquid bitchumen, for a couple of seasons, but had never heard of this tragedy. Can you provide any details please?

Ian Cooper.

Sean Hollywood replies :

DRUID was an unlucky ship in having a battering against the quayside at Stranraer and a collision with MacBraynes CLAYMORE at Tobermory.

She capsized and sank just outside Preston and three crew were drowned.    A fuller story and photos are in the gallery of www.shipsnostalgia.com 


TOO MANY BURNS LAIRD, HOPPERS AND TUGS

Robert Walkinshaw e-mails : I really love reading your site but think there are too many entries for Burns Laird, hoppers and tugs.

Margaret, volunteer administrator replies :   I'm so sorry that you feel there are too many listings for the local ships,    When the site was started it had to be decided whether to include entries for all, or some, or none - of the local vessels.   We decided on including all of them.      Why ?   We felt that we had no right to decide whether to omit any or all entries of Burns Laird, dredgers, hoppers, tugs, puffers, Everards, MacBraynes, Caledonian Steam Packet ....... Clan, Anchor, Blue Funnel.........

Many readers have a vivid interest in the local ships.   Indeed, only a week ago, an expat in South Africa e-mailed saying how much the entries for passing Bowling Watch House reminded him of his home in Old Kilpatrick when he watched all the ships go past.

And someone asks for the 1960's entries for Govan Wharf Watch House be added, as he was wanting to be reminded of the ships passing his home in Water Row, Govan.

Also, my own grandfather and father worked on the hoppers out of Queen's Dock, and my first job on leaving school was with Burns Laird in Robertson Street.    So I have my family's fresh and salt water in my veins, and I, when keying in the listings do take a very keen interest in the historical data, and I can thrill at following my family's daily work on the hoppers.   

This site is, in it's own way, a valuable resource for Modern Clyde Shipping history - and also for family history.  You would not believe how many people contact us for details of their ships' coming to the Clyde to allow them to construct or add to their own personal life history or family research.

Other than this site, where else will you find the daily work of the tugs, dredgers, hoppers, puffers, MacBraynes cargo and Burns Lairds and ordinary quayside goings-on, free-to-use and in so accessible a form and in such wonderful detail.

  Hope this explains our thinking and reasoning. Margaret.

Andy Armstrong writes:    I am "boat daft" and always have been "boat daft" and am not ashamed to admit it.    I'm really happy with all the information on the site and have no problem with the details for Burns Laird etc.    As Margaret points out, where else can you get such a wonderful amount of within living memory of shipping movements on the Clyde.   Nowhere else.   Keep it going just as it is.   Andy

Martin Hannah e-mails :  If Andy is "daft" then I'm a Burns Laird "lunatic" because to me Burns Laird is still alive and kicking in my memory and I can remember them and the ships as if they were yesterday.   It's amazing to read of the arrivals and sailings as they happened and also of the heavy lifts and steel cargoes they carried.   When I look in the laptop in the morning this site is the first I will look at.   Keep up the great work. It's the best and most informative.  Martin Hannah

Jim Thompson writes : Robert you should get real.   Lots of folk, including me find this website really good and it brings back the time when there were docks and quays and piers and lots of ships.   So what if there are lots of details of tugs and Burns & Laird and what else.    These ships were to be seen everyday and were part of the scenery.    I for one am a Tug enthusiast and love to read about their daily jobs.   This great site is the only one to provide me with what I want.    Jim.

"Puffer Fan of Scotstoun" writes :   there isn't a better site for reading about the voyages and cargos of the puffers, and I wouldn't change it for anyone,  Staying close to the filled-in Queen's Dock I was totally surprised to read here how many puffers loaded coal here for Dunoon and Campbeltown and other far-flung places.   I love this site.   As Margaret says you won't find these shipping details and information anywhere else.


WHERE IS PORT RIVALS

On 7th November 1962 the Dutch coaster GRIETJE was shown in the Ardrossan Harbour log-book as leaving for Portroyal, but this was scored out and corrected to Port Rivals.

   There is no Port Rivals listed in the internet.   Does anyone have any idea where this mysterious port can be?


HAMINA in 1965

Eric Kay e-mails

I served on the MS Hamina in 1965.
Position: Maskingut (oiler) but performed the duties of 4th Engineer.
Trip: Montreal Canada (Offloading nitrates) - Souris, Prince Edward Island (loading pulpwood) - Vlessing(Flushing) Holland.

I have some photos taken aboard ship and one long shot @ Souris.
I have also 2 photos at dockside by others.

I also have my papers and my payslips.

At 20yrs of age, in 1965 I wanted to travel (go walkabout) on a minimal budget. 
I lived in Courtenay, Vancouver Island, British Columbia, CANADA.
I hitched truck rides and train from Vancouver across Canada to Montreal. 
Stayed with a relative in Westmount, and I spent 2 weeks visiting the docks every morning, looking for a ship for England to be able to work my passage.
The MS Hamina was short 1 crewman, and was asked "can you change the oil in a car?" My answer was yes having worked in an automotive garage. I was signed on by the Captain after receiving a medical examination.
England(born in Keswick, Cumbria) 
I would appreciate any photographs of the ship
and would appreciate any history.
DWT: 3,016t 304ft long 1954 Bergen Norway
Owner: SKIBS A/S


PADDY HENDERSONS TO BURMA

Is there anyone can describe the voyages from UK to Burma on Paddy Henderson's ships, to do a surprise for my father on his 94th birthday.   Jim Scott


WHERE IS THE HARBOUR OF TREVOR ?

On 18 August 1962 the Gardner's coaster SAINT BEDAN left Ardrossan light-ship for "Trevor"   Where is Trevor ?


WHAT CARGO COMES FROM LOCHALINE IN THE SOUND OF MULL AND BONAWE BOTH IN THE SCOTTISH HIGHLANDS ?

Dwight Washington (Detroit U.S.A) writes :  I see from your entries that many coasters (such as Gardner's SAINT RULE) leave Ardrossan Harbor light-ship for Lochaline and Bonawe.  What cargo do they load there and where did they take it ?


BERTHS IN NORTHERN IRELAND AND ELSEWHERE

Sammy McVeigh e-mails :  I've never been in Northern Ireland and read all your details of ships PALM, SAINT KENTIGERN, POINTER, SPANIEL, ELISA CLIPPER, DEVERON, ANTRIM COAST, GRIETJE, the Puffers and the Burns Laird boats going to Belfast, Larne and Londonderry.   What berths did they use at these ports, as it would be interesting to have this on your site, as well as the berths for other ships in other ports and worldwide too

Douglas replies ; I don't have the berths for other ports and am happy to put them on site.   You will see that there are lots of sailing notices and entries for other ports already on site.   So it's up to viewers to send details - just use the contact us button at the top of the page. 


DAVID MACBRAYNES ADVERT FOR MAY 1960

Hugh McLean writes : Loved the advert,  Reminds me of all the places of my youth